tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post1987519018864235290..comments2024-03-16T04:18:31.954-05:00Comments on LDS (Mormon) Stake Presidents Blog: Adoption and the Unwed MotherStake Pres.http://www.blogger.com/profile/16681281146162453967noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-27957378141103859422018-12-11T23:21:21.833-05:002018-12-11T23:21:21.833-05:00these words are crap these words are crap Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14236436658360763316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-34350503650644701612016-03-07T11:27:06.275-05:002016-03-07T11:27:06.275-05:00My daughter, who is NOT a Mormom but grew up in a ...My daughter, who is NOT a Mormom but grew up in a Protestant home where unconditional love and forgiveness were taught, became pregnant almost 16 years ago by a "man" who later became Mormom. He deserted my daughter, encouraged her to have an abortion and left her on her own. Fortunately, my daughter's strong faith reminded her that all life is valued by God and she decided to keep her daughter, who is now a beautiful and talented 16-year old. My granddaughter's "father", as I mentioned, later married a Mormon woman and became Mormon. He fathered 4 more children with this woman whom he considers his "chosen" and "heavenly" children. He tells my granddaughter, who loves him dearly, that she is NOT his "chosen" and that to him she is dead. How can a man who claims to be of God say that to one of his children? I just don't understand logic...or belief! I do know, however, that God will offer him forgiveness when he decides to repent for the unholy treatment of his daughter, who, despite the circumstances of her conception, is still a child of God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-85777921628363659852016-01-04T03:35:42.084-05:002016-01-04T03:35:42.084-05:00I'm SOO glad I left this ridiculous religion. ...I'm SOO glad I left this ridiculous religion. I was an RM and 6th generation so in deep but luckily came to my senses and got out. I started studying what really happened and it all clicked. Best thing I ever did. Imagine counseling a mother that can easily provide for child to give him/her up for adoption. It created lots of psychological problems for both parent and child for the rest of their life. I think so much clearer now and I'm way happier after leaving. I'm a much better person now. I was fooled into the lie and lived it for a long time until I was 23 but in my defense I was raised in it. But I learned a lot of things about life and myself along the way so its all good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-34046306212157545162014-09-09T01:13:21.743-05:002014-09-09T01:13:21.743-05:00First off Mormons are the most judgemental bastard...First off Mormons are the most judgemental bastards on this planet. I'm sick of hearing Mormons say what would you do if god was here? I have tattoos and every Mormon judges me and assumes I'm a bad guy or some shit. If God was here would you judge someone on front of him?? No you wouldn't cause God says love one as another or something like that. I know so many children that have grew up with out dad's in the picture and they come out and are amazing young good kids and there mom is lds just because they have unprotected sex doesn't mean they can raise a child on there own. Your supposed to make people feel welcome and support there choices and help them not make them give up there kids. Really think about it. Why did God put us on this planet?? To control someone's decisions like a cult would? No to learn from our mistakes and learn from them? So I completely disagree with this LDS presidentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-41833532660770506352014-07-29T00:43:01.988-05:002014-07-29T00:43:01.988-05:00I want to think this site is parody. That this pos...I want to think this site is parody. That this post is parody, but this whole post, right down to the bullshit lines about fatherless children was my experience as an unwed, unexpected pregnant girl in the church. All of it. <br /><br />The Mormon church is a coercive devil who loves to shame women, and give no fucks about a father's rights. They claim they are all about the family, but they'll do anything in this situation to split a family up just to save face. Adoption is a life long decision, and it's not the glorious decision the Mormon church makes it out to be. It's a tough road, even if you weren't coerced or shamed into it. Danielle Barnsley-Cervohttp://www.anotherversionofmother.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-72896626477929298042013-07-17T18:19:53.046-05:002013-07-17T18:19:53.046-05:00The Mormon church does a very swift job of separat...The Mormon church does a very swift job of separating natural, unwed parents from their child, even mothers who are not Mormon and have no stake in loosing their church membership or eternal salvation. I speak from experience, the father of my child was Mormon and was pressured to convince me not to have an abortion. I was then pressured into adoption. Oh but we found a really nice couple who agreed to an open adoption. Well that was short lived. When the child was sealed to them in the temple they swiftly moved and letters went unanswered. And in their minds the broken promises they made to get that baby, well, I guess they think it's ok because the church deems them righteous and deserved and God wanted them to have my child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-40051565046502307002013-05-22T15:23:20.399-05:002013-05-22T15:23:20.399-05:00You all assume that she gave informed consent to s...You all assume that she gave informed consent to sexual activity. The situation wherein the child was conceived is not explained, nor should it be. Perhaps she was under the influence of alcohol, drugs, legal prescribed pain killers, hypnosis, or some other factor wherein she might have sex.<br /><br />What you all also dismiss is the huge population of children in foster care, where the government has two heavy hands in a process similar to this.<br /><br />As a person about to adopt a foster child (not a baby or toddler), I have seen the difficulties this child has been through in the process of being removed from her mother's home, court, visitations, etc. I for one would rather have unwed parents receive counsel from their/his/her clergy, whom they likely trust more than many government officials, than have the government step in later.<br /><br />I don't believe "Mormonism" is a cult as stated above. Many countries have recognized "Mormonism" as a legitimate religion, including Italy, which still takes cues from the Roman-Catholic religion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-74983625526421881812013-03-22T01:44:18.626-05:002013-03-22T01:44:18.626-05:00Everybody makes mistakes, she can solve this probl...Everybody makes mistakes, she can solve this problem by finding adoptive parents. Adoption situationhttp://www.adoptionsfirst.com/BirthMothersSite/index.phpcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-83602261612181810322013-03-14T19:47:51.630-05:002013-03-14T19:47:51.630-05:00Yeah, because religious people never do anything w...Yeah, because religious people never do anything wrong, or make mistakes. It's all just fear controlling the weak of mind, a church ousting you instead of supporting you shows they aren't accepting. God doesn't exist, people's evil intentions do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-33112854621411497432012-09-03T00:43:40.362-05:002012-09-03T00:43:40.362-05:00At 19 I went through something very simmiler I got...At 19 I went through something very simmiler I got pregnant but my situation was different I was raped and I was told it away fault and I had to give my son up for adoption but when I prayed it Just didn't feel right to me so I kept him and to this day people still tell me I should have given him up even my own family yells at me every day because he doesn't have a father and my son is now 3 and I. recently had some one from my word come over and he said that he has a son and daughter in law that can't have kids and they are looking to adopt and its not to late to give up my son because that's the only way I can be saved. needless to say I stopped going to that word and started going to a small branch whom the president is some one that I have known,my whole life and has supported me with keeping my son Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-41161281905308678982012-07-02T19:27:47.128-05:002012-07-02T19:27:47.128-05:00I came across this blog while researching some thi...I came across this blog while researching some things to prepare to go to the temple. I was raised in the church, and for a short time in my life I went through exactly what this young girl is going through. I fell in love with a nonmember man, and turned my back on my family and faith. I was left pregnant and felt like I would never be able to return to the church again. I went through everything alone, including not telling my family and giving birth to my little boy. I was about the same age as this woman, and there is nothing harder in life than feeling like you have disappointed everyone. My family found out three days after I gave birth, and I returned to church with my newborn. My Bishop said I should have given the baby up for adoption, and I would have NEVER considered giving up my little boy. It was a hard road for me, but after meeting a great LDS man I married him when my son was four, and we are preparing to go to the temple to be sealed as a family. I wanted to comment on this blog because I feel like you should know that the WORST thing you could do is to talk this young woman into giving her child up. I can't even imagine a life without my son. He is everything to me, and it would have been so hard to think about where he was and how he turned out if I had given him up for adoption. I can understand that this is good if that is what the woman wants, but to give her a guilt trip about how her family will look, that is horrible. We are taught to forgive, and love. If anything you should have talked with the family with her, and everyone's feelings, and rather talked about how we are NOT the ones to judge but rather we are taught to forgive. The Lord is the one to make that judgement. Her agency shouldn't be messed with, it is her choice to make. It is her life, and her baby. Why should her family get a say in that. Like I said my life has been blessed with my son. It has been a long road of forgiving myself and repenting but that is between no one but our Heavenly Father and myself. I feel sorry for this young woman, because I am sure she felt like everyone was judging her. I agree that the church should SUGGEST that adoption is a choice, but I think the way it was approached was extremly wrong! We should show love and support when people are going through trials, don't you think she was being hard on her self already, and didn't need anyone else to add to it. I hope this young woman made the choice that will be best for her and her child, and if she did decide to keep it I hope she is blessed and feels loved no matter what!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-89804561402983088462011-11-26T01:21:38.041-05:002011-11-26T01:21:38.041-05:00To be fair, none of the LDS resources linked are v...To be fair, none of the LDS resources linked are very similar to the situation depicted in this entry (i.e. a gainfully employed male adult willing to undertake a fatherly role). <br /><br />Even though the church may overly emphasize the importance of marriage (particularly temple marriage) for the raising of children, I hesitate to be so cynical as to think that they would also encourage adoption in the situation depicted here. While I won't say that such insanity doesn't occur from time to time, I can't see the church officially encouraging adoption in such a circumstance. Your sources don't show that, at least.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-36543159609853779782011-09-22T23:43:38.352-05:002011-09-22T23:43:38.352-05:00Stumbled across your blog looking for LDS adoption...Stumbled across your blog looking for LDS adoption websites. Do you know if she has found an adoptive couple, yet, to take the baby? If not, we volunteer! We're an LDS family with 3 biological children so LDS family services won't help us unless we find our own birth mother. Please email to: royandangel@yahoo.com.Roynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-41935890014240328622011-09-19T08:36:16.441-05:002011-09-19T08:36:16.441-05:00Thank you for your insight, PresidentThank you for your insight, PresidentBrother Heber Creepernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-87618032601200172352011-09-17T23:14:26.142-05:002011-09-17T23:14:26.142-05:00Please note that this blog is a fake. President Pa...Please note that this blog is a fake. President Paternoster has been searched and is not a church leader in the LDS church. This is a made-up alias with the intent to mislead which uses a stolen altered picture of Ed Madden; a journalist for the Irish Medical Times (picture is flipped and hair is added).<br /><br />See reference: http://www.imt.ie/opinion/2011/09/ruling-on-fixed-term-work-case.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-59360675596014895792011-09-06T18:15:36.293-05:002011-09-06T18:15:36.293-05:00This dude is not a stake president but an ex Mormo...This dude is not a stake president but an ex Mormon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-1354566748161764042011-08-30T12:02:03.973-05:002011-08-30T12:02:03.973-05:00Huh?
He is teaching straight Mormon doctrine.
T...Huh? <br />He is teaching straight Mormon doctrine. <br /><br />The Mormon church is fake and disgusting, claiming authority over others based on a phony book which has already been disproven by DNA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-52556489891637549832011-08-30T10:37:11.773-05:002011-08-30T10:37:11.773-05:00After reading several of "Pres. Paternoster&#...After reading several of "Pres. Paternoster's" Blogs I think it is overtly obvious that this blog is a big fat phoney. HAHA the jokes on me, you had me going there for a little bit.<br /><br />What is sad is that you cant honestly write about your problems with the church. You have to hide behind a fake name and use deception and subterfuge to complain. You are disgusting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-47450421712592228692011-08-29T23:36:45.999-05:002011-08-29T23:36:45.999-05:00Sad to say, something similar happened in our sta...Sad to say, something similar happened in our stake. No satire here. <br /><br /> In this case, the father was a new convert and actually wanted to marry the 18 year old mother of his child. <br /><br />But our stake president had him excommunicated and the mother was forced to give up her child to a more "worthy" couple. <br /><br /> The young convert father suffered a nervous breakdown over this, the young mother eventually married a returned missionary whom everyone deemed more worthy to be her husband. <br /><br />Well, the heart wants what the heart wants. <br />This temple marriage did not work out due to her pining over her lost love and her lost child.<br /><br /> Three kids and one divorce later she was back in our town.<br /> <br />How many lives were ruined over some shitty SP trying to enforce the shitty Mormon guidelines on adoption , pardon my French.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-4411752076792606602011-08-20T11:11:31.645-05:002011-08-20T11:11:31.645-05:00This is one of the reasons I left the church. My ...This is one of the reasons I left the church. My mother was in the same situation this lady is in now. Instead of caving into what the bishop wanted, she chose to keep her baby. That baby is ME!<br /><br />My mother is not an unfit parent, nor is my father! <br /><br />How dare you suggest that unmarried, pregnant mothers, give their children up for adoption! That is cruel! More so if the mother WANTS to keep her baby, like in my mother's situation!<br /><br />How can you sit there and even suggest that, it go against every thing that makes us human!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-13749854344221014392011-08-07T18:11:27.391-05:002011-08-07T18:11:27.391-05:00Anon said: “It would be a tremendous breach of aut...Anon said: “It would be a tremendous breach of authority and counsel if a stake president threatened excommunication in a case like this.”<br /><br />This woman would obviously not be repentant if she lived with this man to raise the child without being married, as this would clearly be a continuation of the sin of fornication. <br /><br />The purpose of formal discipline is 3-fold as per the Church Handbook of Instructions (CHI):<br /><br />1 -Save the Soul of the Transgressor <br />How can you save the soul of the transgressor when they are not showing a desire for repentance, and are seeking continuation of the serious sin they are charged with in the first place?<br />2- Protect the Innocent <br />As per the CHI “With inspiration, a priesthood leader should act to protect others when a transgressor poses a physical or spiritual threat … “ clearly the child is threatened spiritually by not being born into the covenant and having parents who are not even trying to correct their very serious sins<br />3- Safeguard the Integrity (and good name) of the Church<br />I think the specifics of how the Church and its members in good standing are being hurt have already been enumerated, so I will not expound any further on this issue.<br /><br />Now, it is true that the disciplinary council (or council of love) seems to have a high degree of latitude judging such cases, but only as much latitude as is allowed by the CHI and promptings of the Spirit.<br /><br />As to the other part of your question I will note a previous contributors reference to Poe's Law.<br /><br />Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult to distinguish between parodies of religious fundamentalism and its genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane. <br /><br />I think the appropriate thing to note here is that nothing that our good “Stake President” has said is outside of the actual teachings of the LDS Church, so am I to understand that you are questioning this organization as having religious fundamentalism that appears to be insane?<br /><br />Certainly many of us in the “One True Church” would be aghast at such a thought, and it would be clear indication of an issue with the person questioning since it is simply not possible for the organization or its divinely inspired leadership to be at fault in such matters.~Clint~https://www.blogger.com/profile/09357719835853628668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-31380369862936311192011-08-07T14:30:14.822-05:002011-08-07T14:30:14.822-05:00I only just now stumbled onto this blog so I'm...I only just now stumbled onto this blog so I'm not familiar with the author and thus can't tell if this post is an honest one or subtle trolling.<br /><br />It would be a tremendous breach of authority and counsel if a stake president threatened excommunication in a case like this. That, and the way other people in the narrative are said to be using guilt and confusion to sway the woman's decision while not also admitting to be guilty of doing the same thing makes me think this has to be a joke.<br /><br />Right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-91793101399277966982011-08-07T14:09:09.444-05:002011-08-07T14:09:09.444-05:00When I was in young woman's one of the older g...When I was in young woman's one of the older girls got pregnant and decided to keep the baby. She blatantly displayed her belly for all of us to see. I noticed that in the years following her having her baby several other young woman had babies out of wed-lock, choosing to raise them on their own. One girl even had her baby taken away by social services and her sister ended up raising it. If she had made the righteous choice to give her baby up for adoption and if her parent had been as loving and considerate as the parents in this account, by sending her away to have the baby, then maybe many lives could have been saved from unnecessary anguish.Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-68248308622737128832011-08-07T13:56:25.415-05:002011-08-07T13:56:25.415-05:00Anonymous I have a feeling that Cindy may be bette...Anonymous I have a feeling that Cindy may be better at parody then even the President himself. No offence President.Sister Danielsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-74999744869492973492011-08-06T21:26:15.879-05:002011-08-06T21:26:15.879-05:00What I think we should be clear on is, it isnt the...What I think we should be clear on is, it isnt the vast majoity of mormons that need to repent, but it is the vast majority of mormon women who need to repent from their sinful tempetation of our priesthood brethren, as our brother Warren recently demonstrated (though the court was Satans work).Joe Dempsynoreply@blogger.com