tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post770713150800840313..comments2024-03-16T04:18:31.954-05:00Comments on LDS (Mormon) Stake Presidents Blog: The Book of Abraham - A Powerful Missionary ToolStake Pres.http://www.blogger.com/profile/16681281146162453967noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-55747048625982126892012-08-06T12:37:03.774-05:002012-08-06T12:37:03.774-05:00Should a Bishop contact the husband who holds the ...Should a Bishop contact the husband who holds the priesthood first before giving a blessing to his wife? The wife asked for a blessing from the bishop?Savaiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254250304494139774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-4120920836427726602011-07-17T17:16:59.549-05:002011-07-17T17:16:59.549-05:00Oh what a wonderful work and wonder. What a marvel...Oh what a wonderful work and wonder. What a marvelous blessing the Book of Abraham can be if read with an open heart and a quiet mind. I was reading the BoA last Sunday. I pondered it's words. I studied the facsimile. I concluded that only divine inspiration could get those words from those pictures. Surely it is a miracle of God on High that Joseph Smith was able to make 5 chapters from those pictures. Praise to the man and praise to this testament of Jesus Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-54387319562617664742011-07-16T14:26:16.951-05:002011-07-16T14:26:16.951-05:00Spencer,
I will work on lengthening my testimony ...Spencer,<br /><br />I will work on lengthening my testimony so it has more of an effect of confounding the wicked.<br /><br />I heard there is a new product distributed by the Lord's bookstore called a "Testimony Glove." I shall use this inspired tool to further strengthen my testimony and have the power to carry it into the hard hearts of the sinful and disbelieving.Isaacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-64895053799847901882011-07-16T13:16:31.926-05:002011-07-16T13:16:31.926-05:00President,
How can we use the statement in our m...President,<br /><br /><br />How can we use the statement in our missionary efforts about the 6' tall quaker-looking people who live on the moon joseph smith told us about. No one could know that unless they were a prophet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-20094154989733933952011-07-15T18:58:27.519-05:002011-07-15T18:58:27.519-05:00Nicely done, Issac. Make it about 5 times longer,...Nicely done, Issac. Make it about 5 times longer, though, and that would be a textbook example of an effective testimony.Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04406302148705949428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-52803091253900248192011-07-13T20:34:19.390-05:002011-07-13T20:34:19.390-05:00Following your advice, I promptly shared this powe...Following your advice, I promptly shared this powerful missionary tool with all of my co-workers. They were speechless! I think the spirit touch them so profoundly they, that the sat in silence for several minutes before changing the subject to the weather. I invited them all over to my house with the missionaries to discuss it further this Saturday night. <br /><br />I am sooo excited for their almost guaranteed upcoming baptisms!!Alger's Fannienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-90800598305475772402011-07-13T20:01:32.805-05:002011-07-13T20:01:32.805-05:00Spencer, thanks for the admonition. I will bear m...Spencer, thanks for the admonition. I will bear my testimony instead of talking about facts.<br /><br />I'd like to bear my testimony, i know this church is true...<br /><br />I know President Paternoster is a true Stake President...<br /><br />I know the Book of Abraham is true....<br /><br />I love my family, and i say these things inthenameathysonjesuschristamen.Isaacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-68393683274936672011-07-13T19:49:17.883-05:002011-07-13T19:49:17.883-05:00Isaac, if you want anyone to take your comments se...Isaac, if you want anyone to take your comments seriously, try making them shorter and less facty. I read the first line and my brain began to malfunction. No clue what you said after that.Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04406302148705949428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-40009606610454418062011-07-13T18:02:36.937-05:002011-07-13T18:02:36.937-05:00http://lds.org/scriptures/nt/rom/1.16#15
In Roma...http://lds.org/scriptures/nt/rom/1.16#15 <br /><br />In Romans 1:16 it says "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ". I once met a church member who didn't want to share the Book of Abraham's wonderful story with their friends/neighbors. I felt bad for them for being so ashamed of the gospel. It's so nice to see you President having such zealous joy over the gospel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-10826244813972499482011-07-13T16:54:25.825-05:002011-07-13T16:54:25.825-05:00No, no President Paternoster. That is not how we d...No, no President Paternoster. That is not how we do it. Just stick to the approved programme. You're making things up again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-39292957751911546662011-07-13T14:46:34.350-05:002011-07-13T14:46:34.350-05:00I haven't thought about using the BOA with Mus...I haven't thought about using the BOA with Muslim's or Jews before. Not sure why but thank-you for this suggestion. I have had several associations with Muslims and found a lot of commonalities with our religions. This has helped me build a positive relationship with them and I hope that adding the BOA to our discussions will continue to help bridge the gap between our two religions.Cindynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-35080390183340985892011-07-13T14:19:35.443-05:002011-07-13T14:19:35.443-05:00No, Spencer, Joseph Smith should definitely contin...No, Spencer, Joseph Smith should definitely continue to be the one to get the middle finger!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-64453281163441966232011-07-12T22:25:50.799-05:002011-07-12T22:25:50.799-05:00Long-time members will remember the practice of pl...Long-time members will remember the practice of placing a family photograph and written testimony into a copy of the Book of Mormon, which is then made available to the full-time missionaries.<br /><br />In our family, we have built a Family Home Evening activity around the same principle centered on the Book of Abraham. Our primary-age children draw "facsimiles" based on family photographs. One of our young sons went so far as to draw in the figure of a neighborhood boy of Hamitic lineage for greater similitude! Meanwhile, the older children supply numbered "keys" to identify the individuals depicted. The text of the testimony is provided by my wife, and while presiding over the entire activity, I also undertake the more technically demanding task of printing a copy of the Book off the internet and stapling it into booklet form.<br /><br />A pamphlet provided by the Church would make this very wholesome family activity more widely available, and afford an opportunity for correlated supplementary material for the benefit of investigators. It is a wonderful suggestion, President.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-36499465837803303002011-07-12T17:36:56.838-05:002011-07-12T17:36:56.838-05:00President, I must point out that the most knowledg...President, I must point out that the most knowledgeable scholars of the Lord's institution of learning, even the Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship, which in former days was known as FARMS, agree that the fragments of papyrus in the church's possession are in fact NOT the source for the text of the Book of Abraham, the presence of fragments of facsimile 1 notwithstanding.<br /><br />The source appears to have been on "a long roll of manuscript," not on the "mounted fragments" that appear to have been recovered. No "long roll of manuscript" was found at the Metropolitan Museum of Art with the fragments.<br /><br />The true source of the Book of Abraham text was burned by the Lord in the Chicago Fire of 1871, so as to try the faith of the saints. If we had the original text and Joseph's translation, and it was verified by modern scholars, we would know for a surety that Joseph is a true Prophet of the Restoration, and we would not be blessed with the trials of exercising faith.<br /><br />We should indeed use the Book of Abraham as a missionary tool, and show the authentic scraps of papyrus containing facsimile 1, but we must understand that accepting as scripture is ultimately an act of faith.Isaacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-58537167686329201052011-07-12T10:53:05.866-05:002011-07-12T10:53:05.866-05:00I agree that it would make a powerful missionary t...I agree that it would make a powerful missionary tool in short pamphlet form. Not to discount the Book of Mormon, of course, but many of the investigators on my mission could not get past the many instances of "and it came to pass" that was the custom in Hebrew writing at that time. Then again, they were mostly aborigines from the seed of Cain so we can't expect them to grasp the finer elements of literary style.<br /><br />The Book of Mormon could be best utilized as a teaching aid on Testimony Glove 2.0 (our ward clerk showed me the beta version) -- as an additional sixth finger or perhaps replacing Joseph Smith on the middle finger.Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04406302148705949428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-29632488869120193702011-07-12T10:43:48.454-05:002011-07-12T10:43:48.454-05:00I agree that the Book of Abraham should not be hid...I agree that the Book of Abraham should not be hid under a bushel. Unlike the more often talked about Book of Mormon whose source was taken up to heaven by an angel, we have the papyrus from which the BOA was translated! This vital evidence of truth is available for all to see. Surely Christians and Muslims would be amazed to see the writings of Father Abraham in their pure and original form. Imagine the scholarship that could blossom and bring forth fruit if this precious resource were used to its full potential!Richardhttp://www.bycommonconsent.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-753591549042633617.post-44721742024804752652011-07-12T09:55:39.162-05:002011-07-12T09:55:39.162-05:00I for one am a big fan of inscribing people's ...I for one am a big fan of inscribing people's minds with the idea that we were some airy-fairy intelligences before we came to this earth and that for many many many millenia we progressed until we were ready to come to this earth...these have always been the hallmark doctrines of a sound and fundamental testimony of the restoration knowing that Joe S. had access to such knowledge even b4 the foundation of the true church...there is no doubt with this much knowledge, he must have been a prophet...thanks for the rhetoric to use in teaching investigators, they'll sure appreciate your cynicism, I know I do!<br /><br />Thanks President of the Holy Rosary...you're the best, you have always provided such whimsical and humorous insights which make me so proud that you left this church some time ago now and that you have been so blessed to simply know the workings of any stake in the church! You're simply the best, better than all the rest!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com